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Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1976), 175) notes that most of the examples used by Socrates suggest he has in mind egoistic rather than non-egoistiC hedonism. This, the natural interpretation, is borne out also by the description of the good as 'living a pleasant life without pains' (Prot. 355a2-3). 8 For further defence of the attribution of hedonism to Socrates, see Irwin, Plato's EthiCS, 86-94. Taylor, Protagoras, 176. Cf. '. The mention of bad things as causing harm at 77e5-78a3 suggests that Socrates sees ,'good things' as things which are 'good for' those who desire them.
Plato's readers, whoever they are - and he never says what sort of readership he would like to have - most of the discourse within the dialogue is addressed by Socrates to Glaucon and Adeimantus. For now I am going to take it as obvious that the argument of the Republic is for people like Glaucon and Adeimantus. And the fact about them which Price highlights is that they are presented as already committed to morality, but as wanting to see how a philosophical defence of it would go. It is a case of 'fides quaerens illtellectum', Price also observes that in the Republic the state of the just and therefore happy soul is not such that a contrary state is necessarily felt by its owner as disturbed and miserable.
Irwin, Plato's Ethics (New York: Oxford University Press, 1995),8,355, n. 12. 2 I shall thus avoid the debate over whether the earlier dialogues represent the views of the real Socrates, and the later those of Plato. But of course my claims about the views of what might be thought to be the later Socrates could be translated into claims about the views of Plato. The fact that Plato used the character of Socrates throughout his career may be taken to suggest that he himself would not have objected to the strategy I adopt.